Brian Sanders | Food Lies: New Science That’s Changing Everything, Misconceptions of Our Ancestors & Why Scientists Are Paid For False Studies


“Part of the biggest problem of these processed foods is that they're sold to you as health foods so you don't think that they're bad for you but they are, right? Some people who have poor health are very overweight and they know it but they're like, ‘Yeah but I love Popeye's and I eat fried chicken all the time and that's my thing.' That wasn't the case with my parents. Like them, you think that you're doing the right thing by following the government's food pyramid but you're not and the nutrition changes you can make are actually pretty simple and straightforward.” – Brian Sanders

Wellness + Wisdom Episode 440

CEO of Sapien, Host of the Peak Human Podcast, and Filmmaker of the upcoming documentary, Food Lies, Brian Sanders, explains the 3 things you can remove from your diet to burn body fat faster, unpacks food psychology to help you shift your mindset and behaviors plus secrets of the food industry that they do not want you to know.

Is your body crying out for new nutrition but you're not sure why?

Listen as Brian shares why your intuitive food mechanism has been blunted on purpose by the government's food pyramid guidelines and the billions of dollars that are spent by big food corporations to take over your biology.

Part of the biggest problem with these processed foods is they're sold to you by Big Food corporations and the government food pyramid as health foods so you don't think that they're bad for you but they actually are. - @FoodLiesOrg Click To Tweet

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Listen To Episode 440 As Brian Sanders Uncovers:

[1:30] Why the Food Pyramid is a Lie

  • BREATHE: Breath and Wellness Program
  • Brian Sanders
  • Food Lies Film
  • Sapien
  • Peak Human Podcast
  • Nose to Tail
  • How Brian shifted his career from being a mechanical engineer to filmmaking and interviewing health experts.
  • Brian's close friendship with his fellow filmmaker, Jay Hanamura, who he's known since his younger years in school.
  • His childhood growing up in Hawaii and the health journeys both he and his parents experienced.
  • Why his family followed the government's food pyramid guidelines including cereals, pastas, and dairy for years.
  • The struggle he went through when he lost both of his parents (dad to cancer and mom to Alzheimer's in their late 60s, early 70s) when he was 30 years old and how that has impacted his wellness journey.
  • Brian's realization that his parents had several signs of chronic disease yet no one told them.
  • How following the food pyramid impacted his parents' poor health signs including undiagnosed pre-diabetes.
  • The frustration he felt at the loss of his parents because they were doing the “right things” like not going to McDonald's and cooking at home with the Food Pyramid guidelines.
  • Why the ‘Dad Bod' actually isn't a fun thing and it's a sign that you are insulin resistant.
  • 112 Mark Sisson
  • The huge problem we're facing in the US as processed foods are being sold to us as health foods.
  • Slow health benefits Brian began to see as his body's composition and day-to-day health extremely changed when he took out the most processed parts of his diet.

[17:00] Intuitive Food Signals

  • Chris Masterjohn PhD
  • 357 Robb Wolf | Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat
  • Diana Rogers, RD
  • Joe Rogan: Diana Rogers and Robb Wolf | The Corporatization of Food
  • How you can tune into your intuitive food signals and follow the right nutrition to keep you healthy.
  • The war that has been created around being vegan or eating red meat and what we should actually be talking about now.
  • How removing oils, sugars, and flour can help turn your natural intuitive food signals back online.
  • The unfair demonization of meat for so long when the real enemy is processed food.
  • What questions you should be asking yourself if a brand or someone claims that a food is “heart healthy” or a superfood.
  • How the media is always playing with us by dividing people or swaying our thoughts and opinions.
  • Our body's production of leptin and ghrelin plus what signs we need to look out for to know if they're balanced or not.
  • His take on calories and why he doesn't agree that we should tell people to just eat less.
  • The fact that all calories are not the same like that which comes from carbs and fat compared to protein.
  • Why you have to be careful about losing weight because it could also mean that you're losing muscle.
  • The fact that you have to be careful if you're not eating enough protein (like if you go on a juice fast) because you could be losing muscle.

[25:30] How to Eat to Burn Body Fat

  • The importance of knowing that to lose fat, you have to ask yourself, “How am I going to know to be full so I can eat less energy and still be full?”
  • How to figure out how much protein and nutrients your body needs to survive and then eat less energy so that your body can burn fat.
  • Why people who eat a vegan diet are not getting all the protein and nutrients they need and their body begins to deteriorate because of it.
  • Which foods you should consider adding to your diet so that they keep you full and also give you the right protein and nutrients that your body needs.
  • Dr. Ted Naiman
  • How to break down satiety per calorie for your body with the example of eating a piece of steak vs a bag of Doritos chips.
  • The Dorito Effect by Mark Schatzker
  • Exploring the food psychology behind why humans just can't stop eating processed foods like chips.
  • How hyper-palatable foods like Doritos trick the human body into thinking it's getting nutrients but it really isn't.

[32:00] Food Psychology: Shift Your Mindset & Behaviors

  • What first steps someone can take if they want to begin to lose weight.
  • The importance of understanding what kind of eater you are and whether you're able to abstain or moderate what and how much you eat.
  • 129 Gretchen Rubin
  • How Josh's body has changed since Novah was born.
  • What Brian did to get away from mindless snacking by first realizing it's a bad habit and then allowing that habit to morph into his identity.
  • Why health goals and eating habits will be different for everyone and some approaches will work better for your individual needs than someone else.
  • 362 Zach Bush MD: Saving The Soil, Saving Humanity
  • 365 Dr. Paul Saladino | Your Guide To The Carnivore Diet: The Myths of Eating Meat & Plants
  • Why we need more protein as a nation and he believes that doing this will help us lose more weight and be much healthier.
  • The increase in obesity that we started seeing in the USA in 1980 when the nutrition guidelines and food pyramid were first introduced and how it's been increasing ever since.
  • Why we overeat processed foods because our body needs to reach a certain amount of protein intake vs eating a very high protein food in a smaller portion.

[43:00] Secrets of the Food Industry

  • Breaking down how businesses make profit with packaged processed foods compared to high protein foods like real meat.
  • How his business, Nose to Tail, operates and how expensive it is just to keep up with the food production.
  • The importance of looking at who actually funds all of these food companies such as this one on pasta which is funded by Barilla.
  • Barilla's message to America: Pasta is healthy
  • The toxicity of cancel culture that we're seeing today in our society.
  • How you can break the habit of eating the same foods you did when you were an adolescent.

[51:00] The Mission of Sapien

  • About Sapien and his mission to help people become peak human.
  • Why he wants Sapien to become the ‘Apple' company of health and wellness.
  • The lifestyle choices you make from where you live to where you shop for food and how that impacts your wellness journey.
  • Why Brian has found himself spending less money on food now especially since he has cut snacking out of the picture or a Starbucks run or going out to eat.
  • How we can shift the way we see food and value good quality sources for their health benefits.
  • Food purchasing habits in the USA compared to other countries and why we don't value quality foods enough.
  • How Brian's health transformation has helped him save money in other ways since he hasn't had to go to the doctor or paid medical bills in years.

[59:30] Navigating Your New Healthy Identity

  • What you can do once you decide to shift and build a new healthy identity for yourself.
  • The negative consequences of referring to going off track with your diet as a “cheat day.”
  • Why it's okay to go out to eat every now and then and you shouldn't beat yourself up about it.
  • The power in seeing going out to eat with friends sometimes and having a good time as a celebration; not the start of a shame spiral.
  • How the flour from ancestral grains such as in Italy compares to the refined flour we have in the USA.
  • Sourdough – Bill Schindler's
  • The differences between real cheese and fake, sliced American Kraft cheese.
  • Why food like the different kinds of carbs can be confusing and we have to realize there is a difference such as when you compare bread to a sweet potato.
  • The truth about vegetable oil and why they're really just seed oils.
  • Why all of the good oils are actually fruits: olives, avocados, and coconuts besides animal fats.
  • How It's Made – Canola Oil
  • Our history with consuming omega 6 fats and why traditionally humans never used to eat as much of them as they do now.
  • Dr. Chris Knobbe
  • Breaking down what happens to the body when we eat too many omega 6 fats.

[1:12:30] Eat What Your Great-Grandmother Ate

  • Why ancestral diets work because they're what got us here today.
  • The fact that humans never had chronic disease until the 1900s.
  • Sorry vegans! Australian study finds eating MEAT correlates to a longer life expectancy
  • The incessant push against meat in the media and by big food companies and pharmaceuticals who can profit from it when it is actually good for us and fine to consume.
  • Why it is possible for us to eat better; we just have to make the choice to change our lifestyles and shift what we use our money for each day.
  • Brian's definition of wellness and why you cannot cheat nature.

Power Quotes From The Show

When we look at food instincts and intuitive eating; what did we eat for all of history? We didn't have the sugar, flour, and seed oils - we had the meat and we were eating fish, eggs and any other fruits and vegetables. - @FoodLiesOrgClick To Tweet

You Can't Cheat Nature

“People are looking for a hack or to cheat nature; you can cheat nature in other ways like flying a plane but you cannot cheat your way to better health. You can't just take a pill that will make you feel like you slept for 8 hours when you really only did 3 hours. It doesn't work like that – just the same, something like fake Beyond Meat is never going to be as good as real meat.” – Brian Sanders

The First Step of Your New Health Identity

“You have to value your wellness first to really begin to navigate your new health identity. You need to understand how valuable what you eat is and that if you do this, you will have long-term health. That is step 1. If you know enough about this, you study it and believe it enough to say to yourself, ‘I will not die of Alzheimer's or cancer or heart disease and I want to live as long as I can, I need to eat better.' Then you've set in motion your desire to eat more whole foods and get rid of anything with sugar, flour, and seed oils.” – Brian Sanders

The Unfair Demonization of Meat

“Let's not get stuck in a food camp and sometimes we're actually fighting the wrong battle. Take meat for example; it has been unfairly demonized for so long but the real enemy is processed foods: sugar, flour, and seed oils make up about 80% of the grocery store in different versions put together with different flavorings and combinations. When we look at food instincts and intuitive eating; what did we eat for all of history? We didn't have the sugar, flour, and seed oils – we had the meat and we were eating fish, eggs, and any other fruits and vegetables that we could find and that's it; it's the simplest diet ever. – Brian Sanders


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About Brian Sanders

Brian Sanders quit his job and dedicated his life to studying health and nutrition. He is trying his best to be unbiased and to simplify the conflicting advice out there and distill down concepts into something anyone can understand. Brian is not a doctor or nutritionist.

He is a mechanical engineer and he lost both of his parents to chronic disease and has set off on his own path for the last 4 years to study this topic and make sure he doesn’t fall to the same fate. His role is the curator, the communicator. He has interviewed over 100 of the top scientists, doctors, nutritionists, fitness experts, and other health professionals and has come to find some simple truths that he’d like to share.

A lot of this will be presented in the feature length documentary called Food Lies, but it’s not all about the film. He is spreading this information to the public anyway he can. Not only has he created the Peak Human podcast, he posts daily ideas and information on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook, and soon to he'll be doing more videos on youtube.

The bigger goal is to change the way we do healthcare. That's why he started the parent company of these projects called SAPIEN (http://sapien.org). They are building technology to help doctors, health coaches, and patients communicate more effectively and reverse chronic diseases.


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Josh Trent lives in Austin, Texas with his love Carrie Michelle, son Novah, and a cat named Cleo. He is the Founder of Wellness Force Media, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath & Wellness Program. Josh has spent the past 19+ years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. The Wellness Force Media Mission is to help humans heal mental, emotional, and physical health through podcasts, programs, and a global community that believes in optimizing our potential to live life well.

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