Matteo Franceschetti: Sleep Fitness & The Good Side of Technology



“When I think of technology for sleep, I think in two dimensions. In one dimension you have your phone with emails coming in, Slack messages, text messages, Whatsapp and so on that can give you anxiety. That type of technology is bad because it keeps your mind racing when you really just have to slow down. Our technology at Eight Sleep has a different concept; you don't see it – it's just there embedded in the bed and it does the work for you as it enhances your sleep without anxiety. We've just leveraged the power of sensors and machine learning to help your body recover faster behind the scenes.” – Matteo Franceschetti

Wellness + Wisdom Episode 373

Co-Founder and CEO of Eight Sleep, Matteo Franceschetti, shares what your sleep fitness score really means,  what sleep hygiene is compared to sleep fitness, how Eight Sleep tracks your health with key pieces of data, and why thermoneutrality and their unique sensing technology to regulate your body temperature is so beneficial for your deep, restorative sleep.

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[1:30] How's Your Sleep Fitness Score?

  • Eight Sleep
  • Matteo Franceschetti
  • What the future of sleep for humans could look like including our ability to sleep smarter and get 6 quality hours of sleep instead of needing 8 each night.
  • His journey and how he came into this line of work to help people sleep well.
  • Why sleep hygiene is different than our sleep fitness.
  • The most common mistakes people get wrong about creating a proper sleeping environment.
  • Unpacking how stress impacts our HRV, body temperature, and sleep quality.
  • The difference between sleep efficiency and sleep quality.
  • Why temperature is a bigger factor than mattress firmness for most people and especially couples sharing a bed.
  • Products they have created to specifically address temperature issues to help their customers improve their sleep fitness.

[16:00]  How Eight Sleep Tracks Your Health

  • The research and development his team have done to create their Eight Sleep products and what they are focusing on now.
  • How their embedded sensors are able to tell people when they're about to get sick or are sick already.
  • Their vision of someday being able to help prevent strokes with their data collection.
  • How their products differ from a wearable as their consistent data is able to see how you're aging and notice any possible anonymity in your health.
  • What they've done to include the component of behavior change into achieving greater sleep fitness.
  • Tips, insights, and suggestions that you will receive using the Eight Sleep products to help you make good, healthy lifestyle choices.
  • Exploring whether good sleep comes from the amount of time or quality of it.
  • How you can get a good night's sleep in a compressed amount of time.
  • Why cold temperatures are necessary to maximize your deep sleep but REM sleep calls for thermoneutrality.
  • What thermoneutrality is and why we need it for a quality night's worth of sleep.

[23:00] How Does AI Help Us Sleep Better?

  • Why technology is such a great tool for us to sleep better at night especially in this modern age.
  • How technology, when it comes to too much screen time, messages, and social media, creates too much anxiety.
  • Unpacking Eight Sleep's design including how you won't even notice it because the product is embedded in your bed as it enhances your ability to unwind, relax, and sleep better at night.
  • The specific sensors that are included in the Eight Sleep product to help aid your sleep.
  • Why you don't have to change anything from your habits to charging a battery to use Eight Sleep.
  • How humidity levels can drastically impact your sleep at night.
  • What they're doing now to collect data on your city's weather and your bedroom temperature to give you customized temperature recommendations.
  • Why some people might be wary about using artificial intelligence to sleep better at night and why they don't have to be.
  • What Eight Sleep does to address the user's sweating, tossing, and turning habits at night.
  • Joe Rogan Experience #1555 – Alex Jones & Tim Dillon

[30:30] How Eight Sleep Is Helping Reduce Your Stress

  • Exploring the content they're providing their users to help them actively reduce their stress before bedtime and when they get up in the morning.
  • The connection between HRV and physical stress as a factor in determining heart attacks.
  • Breaking down what HRV is and how it can be used as a tool for better sleep fitness.
  • Why the more the variability happens between heartbeats, the more recovered and refreshed you are.
  • What health transformations Matteo personally went through with his Eight Sleep's collected data.
  • How a 20-minute power nap can help reduce your adenosine levels and have a greater focus for the rest of your day.
  • Why the best way to reduce your adenosine levels is to take a quick nap rather than go for that cup of coffee.
  • Why Eight Sleep isn't just for athletes but for everyone too who's looking to improve their health.
  • His recommendation to people to try and sleep at least 1 hour more each day for a week and see how that makes them feel.

[38:30] Why Do We Struggle With Sleep?

  • Why it might seem like a simple thing to try and get more sleep each night but it can actually be a very difficult thing for people to do.
  • The fact that people are now viewing sleep deprivation as the new smoking for our society.
  • How you will achieve peak energy, focus, and performance when you begin to focus more on getting better sleep each night.
  • Why better sleep will help you reduce disease as well as increase longevity and lose weight.
  • The research out there that shows disease from obesity to heart disease to Parkinson's are directly related to sleep deprivation.
  • The various hormones that are impacted by sleep including ghrelin and leptin which impact our appetite and eating patterns.
  • Why it's so important to have a consistent sleep pattern by going to bed and waking up at the same time each day including the weekends.
  • How to wind down 30 minutes before bedtime with blue light glasses, orange light bulbs, melatonin, and magnesium supplements.
  • The benefit of creating thermoshocks in the body before bed with hot and cold showers but why it's not for everyone.
  • The Eight Sleep feature that their customers love the most which is a thermal and vibrational alarm to wake them up without any sound.

Power Quotes From The Show

[click_to_tweet tweet=”‘At the end of the day, good sleep is strictly connected with your quality rather than quantity. If you can get your 20-25% deep sleep and 20-25% REM, that is what you really need.' – @m_franceschetti of @eightsleep ” quote=”‘At the end of the day, good sleep is strictly connected with your quality rather than quantity. If you can get your 20-25% deep sleep and 20-25% REM, that is what you really need.' – @m_franceschetti of @eightsleep “]

How Sleep Impacts Our Weight & Eating Habits

“When we workout, we feel good and thus tend to eat healthier just because of that feeling. This is the same concept with sleep; if you sleep well and had a solid eight hours of good sleep, then when you wake up, hormonal changes with your ghrelin and leptin levels will take place. You will not crave carbohydrates, bad food, and most likely less food. The point is, this is not a placebo effect in your mind but your hormones justifying these behaviors. While instead when you are sleep deprived, and you want to try and compensate that sleep deprivation and lack of energy in your brain through food in particular junk food.” – Matteo Franceschetti

Quantity vs. Quality Of Sleep

“The standardized quantity of sleep is 7 to 9 hours per day but the reality is that you need a certain percentage of deep sleep and REM. Light sleep is an inefficiency of your body to transition across the different sleep stages and that is where we believe that we can compress your sleep and let you recover faster. At the end of the day, good sleep is strictly connected with your quality. If you can get your 20-25% deep sleep and 20-25% REM, you translate that into minutes and that is what you really need. Deep sleep is more for your physical body and REM is more for your mind.” – Matteo Franceschetti

Let Eight Sleep Do The Work For You

“What I love about our Eight Sleep technology is that you don't have to wear anything, you don't have to charge anything, you don't even have to change your habits. There is nothing you need to remind yourself; there are no obligations. You just keep doing what you were doing last night but this time your bed is marked and it will improve your sleep.” – Matteo Franceschetti

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About Matteo Franceschetti

Matteo Franceschetti: Sleep Fitness & The Good Side of TechnologyMatteo is the Co-Founder and CEO of Eight Sleep, the world's leading sleep FITNESS company.
Named one of the Most Innovative Companies in Consumer Electronics by Fast Company, Eight is redesigning the traditional concept of a mattress, by developing cutting-edge AI and machine learning models to track bio signals during sleep with the goal of optimizing body recovery and rest.

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About Josh Trent

Josh Trent lives in Austin, Texas with his love Carrie Michelle, son Novah, daughter Nayah + a cat named Cleo. He is the host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath + Wellness Program. Josh has spent the past 20+ years as a trainer, researcher + facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. Helping humans LIBERATE their mental, emotional, physical, spiritual + financial self through podcasts, programs + global community that believe in optimizing our potential to live life well.

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