Robb Wolf | Mental Health Sovereignty: How To Make Your Mind Wise + Strong Amidst Chaos

“The woke mentality steals the ability for people to have gratitude. No matter how shitty the situation is, if we can cultivate a sense of gratitude, then it gives us the option of agency…

…I can be grateful for the challenge that I have, and then you can start moving forward, or you experience despair which means your progress has stopped and you’re done. You’re either going to die now or you’re going to die later, but your situation isn’t going to change.” Robb Wolf

Wellness + Wisdom Episode 492

A 2X New York Times Bestselling Author, Father, and Founder of Healthy Rebellion, Robb Wolf, comes for the 4th time on Wellness + Wisdom to talk about the current problems in our society, why he believes another crisis is coming, and what mental health means to him.

Are you prepared to discover why nuclear energy is actually good for the planet and how you should get ready for another global crisis after COVID-19?

In this episode, Robb and Josh discuss why it's important to be ready for the unpredictable, the role that community plays in everyday life and in crisis, and how changing your difficulties into strengths can change your life.

The woke mentality steals the ability for people to have gratitude. No matter how shitty the situation is, if we can cultivate a sense of gratitude, then it gives us the option of agency. - @robbwolfClick To Tweet

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Listen To Episode 492 As Robb Wolf Uncovers:

[1:30] The Lack of Information about Energy

[11:40] Why Is Nuclear Power Good for The World?

  • Naval Special Warfare
  • Why solar and wind energies are intermittent and transient according to Robb.
  • The shift in Europe’s energies towards renewable resources.
  • Why coal and natural gas have a lower carbon footprint than wood pallets.
  • Greenwashing: Not all renewable resources are sustainable.
  • Discussing nuclear accidents from the past: Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.
  • Gen 4 and 5 nuclear reactors: Safe nuclear power that is still disliked after the accidents.
  • How nuclear power helps the world.
  • Nuclear waste from Gen 1 nuclear reactors: Plutonium, uranium.
  • Solar energy byproduct: Radioactive chemical Thorium.
  • Exploring the use of Thorium.

[17:22] Renewable Energy Is Not Enough for The World

  • Carbon capture projects: Why we need huge amounts of energy to get rid of CO2 but there is an ironic twist to it.
  • Wyoming Carbon Capture facility: Powered by wind and solar energies, and natural gas.
  • Life Cycle Analysis: How the Carbon Capture facility will eventually generate more carbon than it removes.
  • The ways we can implement the Biodynamic Model into nature restoration and preservation.
  • Climate mitigating activities require a huge amount of energy that can’t only be sourced from renewable sources.
  • Why Robb believes solar and wind energies will always only be a piece of the energy we use.
  • What could happen if we let things go to the extreme: The right-wing extreme restoring order and breaking society structure under a totalitarian regime.
  • Why we should never waste a good crisis.

[21:25] Creating a Community & Supporting Mental Health During CV-19

  • Josh explains why he renamed his podcast from Wellness Force to Wellness + Wisdom.
  • The reason behind why Robb and his family moved from Texas to Montana.
  • Healthy Rebellion Community
  • How Robb leads the Healthy Rebellion Community, his family, and what he believes are the key ingredients for better mental health right now.
  • How Robb started his podcast and community, Healthy Rebellion.
  • Why he doesn’t like the phrase “safe space.”
  • Separating feelings from facts to maintain civilized conversations without forgetting to acknowledge the emotions that surge.
  • Covid lockdown: The loss of freedom and the importance of community during the pandemic.

[25:02] Emotional Support in Difficult Times

[29:00] Robb’s Childhood & Living through Adversity

  • The Paleo Solution: The Original Human Diet by Robb Wolf
  • How Robb’s book from 2010 applies to right now.
  • His background: Unhealthy family, gut issues, and poverty.
  • The privilege of being born a white male in the U.S.A. at the end of the 20th century.
  • Unpacking the social stigma of being on government financial support.
  • How can social welfare turn into multigenerational traps.
  • Adversity now vs then: How adversity has become a badge of honor.
  • Why Robb believed he could get the American Dream through hard work.

[32:56] How a Strong Community Helped Cambodians Overcome Obstacles

  • The story of Robb’s Cambodian friend: Escaping the country to survive during a civil war.
  • Khmer Rouge (a radical communist movement that ruled Cambodia from 1975 to 1979) – ⅓ of Cambodia was killed by them.
  • The Killing Fields
  • How the Cambodian community in the U.S. helped Robb’s friend start from scratch and create several businesses.
  • Rodney King Riots (Los Angeles, 1992) – The Cambodians had bunkers and were ready to defend their families and community.
  • The journey from nothing to success: The importance of having an intact culture, work ethics, and nuclear family.

[35:38] Exploring Today's Modern Mentality

  • Why Robb thinks that the woke mentality steals the ability to have gratitude and how cultivating gratitude creates a sense of agency.
  • Unpacking why the woke mentality is a source of mental health issues.
  • How children are being told that they are victimized instead of being encouraged to get through the issue.
  • Virtue Signaling Olympics: Why we have to justify our suffering.

[38:00] Teaching the Fundamentals in Order to Master a Skill

  • Robb tells a childhood story about being shamed for using food stamps to buy food and how it changed the trajectory of his life.
  • The Matrix: Why is Neo the one?
  • Patrick Bet-David
  • Jordan Peterson
  • Breaking the family patterns and why Robb thinks he’s “the one” in his own family to end the cycle.
  • Robb’s post on Instagram about his daughters: How it describes what it means to be mentally healthy.
  • The challenges of homeschooling for Robb’s daughters.
  • Robb's experience having to write 10,000 words about a brick wall: How reframing the process made it easy.
  • How his daughters, Zoe and Sagan, went from struggling with writing to enjoying it that they each wrote a 5-page letter to their cousin.
  • Why the beginning is the hardest part: Teaching his daughters to do the fundamentals to be able to develop the skills.

[44:10] The Power of Turning Our Difficulties into Strengths

[47:57] What Happens If the System Fails?

  • Why Western liberal democracies are lost in historical events according to Robb and what he thinks would happen if Chinese communism became a global norm.
  • Pitting people against each other with the example of Muslims in China.
  • Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
  • 1984 by George Orwell
  • Why Robb believes that it’s possible that humanity falls under a strictly controlled regime, but doesn’t think it will actually happen.
  • How the economic system compares to a train and why he thinks the system is broken.
  • Chris Martenson
  • How urban centers will suffer when economics, energy, or food systems collapse.

[52:18] Covid Pandemic: Facing a Real Global Crisis

  • Robb on moving to Montana: Finding a strong community in his neighborhood.
  • Why do we not know our neighbors and how can we change that to strengthen the community?
  • How the suffering in the 1920s and 1930s in the USA shifted from starvation, no work, and homelessness to prosperity.
  • The potential threats of Covid: Why it’s important to have the understanding of what could potentially happen.
  • Missing opportunities by fearing a potential economic crisis.
  • How Rob dealt with the Covid pandemic without fear, why he expected it to happen, and why people who don’t expect dislocations to happen suffer the most.
  • How a global crisis could bring people together and improve the food system.

[57:28] Eliminating Unpredictability

  • Josh talks about nature’s strategy that we can use as inspiration to help us prepare for a crisis.
  • How to prepare for unpredictable situations and why redundancy is beneficial during emergencies.
  • Texas snowpocalypse 2022
  • iCaveman Show: Why he would never do that again: Starving himself for 2 weeks, losing 20 pounds.
  • Morgan Spurlock: Super Size Me
  • Why Robb’s family makes extra portions almost every time they cook, freeze-dry them, and then store them in the freezer.
  • Nutrients in freeze-dried and frozen foods: Do frozen foods conserve their nutritional value?
  • The reason Robb bought an air rifle and invested in firearm training.
  • The precautions he took at his home to prepare in case of an emergency: a generator, a small solar panel, a pellet stove, a small woodstove, having a water well with a simple pump, and living close to a lake.
  • How the Healthy Rebellion community supports each other in urban areas.
  • Why it’s enough to spend 5-10% of our time over a month creating redundancy for emergencies and maintaining it afterward.
  • Selco Begovic mentions in his book about the Serbian civil war a list of necessities, including tradable items.

[1:08:07] Debt-Driven Economy: Is an Economic Collapse Only a Matter of Time?

[1:12:40] The Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and Stocks

[1:16:00] Investment, Prosperity, and Community

  • How Rob and his wife Nikki manage their finances and investments.
  • Investing in silver and gold: Why is silver a commodity that will never go away?
  • Why he thinks investing a smaller part of your finances into index funds, stocks, or crypto can be good.
  • What makes land such a great investment plus how a strong community can be beneficial in times of a financial crisis and investment.
  • Finding community and making connections in sports clubs.

[1:20:14] Acknowledging The Potential in Others

  • Robb in his 20’s: Proving to himself and the world that he matters and can be successful, and what he would do differently if he could.
  • Dysfunctional family mechanism: How he made it work for himself.
  • Acknowledging talent and potential: Letting people know they matter.
  • How can mentors give meaningful wisdom and why genuine desire of the recipient plays an important role in reaching greatness.
  • Mike Dillard: Creating an authentic community where people don’t want to get anything from one another, only give to one another.

[1:25:13] Remembering to Live in The Present Moment

  • Becoming comfortable with success and remembering to live and being in the moment.
  • Investing in our downside risk mitigation: Why Robb thinks he has invested too much time preparing for the end of the world instead of preparing for a better world.
  • Robb’s books: The Paleo Solution, Wired to Eat, Sacred Cow
  • Upcoming book “Consequence Economy”: How good intentions and lack of understanding can go horribly wrong.
  • What wellness means to Robb now in 2022: Prioritizing the things he really wants to do and learning to say “no” to what he doesn’t want in his life.
  • 216 Exploring The Shadow Self For Healing: George Bryant
  • Robbwolf.com

Power Quotes From The Show

It doesn’t matter what your situation is, you can improve it. - @RobbWolfClick To Tweet

Our Debt-Driven Economy

“There will be a chunk of debt, then we take out loans to pay that debt, and then we’re paying debt with debt. The thing about that is that you need a certain rate of economic growth to keep that system going. If you don’t have a certain rate of economic growth, then the whole system collapses.” – Robb Wolf

Being Ready For The Unpredictable

“There will be a lot of dislocation, a lot of pain, and the people that are going to suffer the most are the people that didn’t realize this was an eventuality. They didn’t realize there was a possibility of a really rainy day, and maybe a rainy month, or a rainy decade.

So they’re going to be surprised, and they’re going to be bitter, and that’s going to make them really ineffective, strap themselves, and lean into the community that they have and help each other. The bright side of that, people will be more networked in the real world. People will care more of each other.” – Robb Wolf

Downside Risk Mitigation

“There are a lot of folks that are afraid of facing some of these darker realities because of the anxiety they produce just thinking about economic stuff and global upheaval. But a little bit of investment in downside risk mitigation really helps you sleep at night.

But then the advice I need, and what I’ve been realizing, I’ve been too good at that, I’ve invested too much in that. I’ve been preparing too much for the end of the world instead of preparing for a better world.” – Robb Wolf


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About Robb Wolf

Robb Wolf, a former research biochemist is the 2X New York Times/WSJ Best Selling author of The Paleo Solution and Wired To Eat.  Robb has transformed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people around the world via his top ranked iTunes podcast, books, and seminars.

Robb Wolf | Mental Health Sovereignty: How To Make Your Mind Wise + Strong Amidst ChaosRobb has functioned as a review editor for the Journal of Nutrition and Metabolism (Biomed Central) and as a consultant for the Naval Special Warfare Resiliency program. He serves on the board of Directors/Advisors for Specialty Health Inc, The Chickasaw Nation’s “Unconquered Life” initiative, and a number of innovative start-ups with a focus on health and sustainability.

Robb holds a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and is a former California State Powerlifting Champion (565 lb. Squat, 345 lb. Bench, 565 lb. Dead Lift) and a 6-0 amateur kickboxer.

Wolf has provided seminars in nutrition and strength & conditioning to a number of entities including NASA, Naval Special Warfare, the Canadian Light Infantry, and the United States Marine Corps.

Robb lives in Texas with his wife Nicki and daughters Zoe and Sagan.


Robb Wolf | Mental Health Sovereignty: How To Make Your Mind Wise + Strong Amidst Chaos

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