Jon Vroman | Dumbing Down Dad? Why Media Demonstrates Fathers As Useless + Why We Need Conscious Front Row Dads Now More Than Ever


There's always time to become a better dad. Your best impact is still right now in this moment; it can be made with your kids no matter how old they are. Men have to know themselves. This process all begins when you're willing to take a look at if you're really being present. Can you see all the parts of yourself and accept them?” – Jon Vroman

Wellness + Wisdom Episode 487

Jon Vroman is a full-time dad, author of the book, The Front Row Factor, and Founder of Front Row Foundation and Front Row Dads community. He joins us today for the second time after many years to talk about what it means to be a front row dad, the positive impact a community has on men, and why being a dad and a family man is still not considered as valuable as being a businessman.

Are you ready to redefine fatherhood and understand the importance of space in relationships?

Join Jon and Josh as they talk about the essence of Front Row Dads, the current image of an uncool dad, and how to be a family man with a business.

It’s not always about learning something new, it’s about remembering something true. - @jonvromanClick To Tweet

Front Row Dads

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Juggling work and family life is complicated, and yet some men are winning at both.

If you’re a dad who wants to be the absolute best for your family, you should check out FrontRowDads.com/live: December 2-4 in Austin, Texas.

It’s the first event of its kind – designed specifically for high-performing, hard-charging dads who want to win at home, even more than winning at work.

I’ll be there, and I hope you can join me!

Use “JOSH” at checkout for 10% off!

Hope to see you there!


Listen To Episode 487 As Jon Vroman Uncovers:

[1:30] Learning to Understand the Ego

[13:00] Jon’s Journey to Storytelling

  • Jon talks about using storytelling to get love and attention in the past, and why he uses the truth to tell stories now.
  • How storytelling can be used to fulfill the need to fit in and be loved.
  • How Jon found inspiration in Tony Robbins.
  • Tony Robbins
  • Paul Chek | All is God
  • The 4 questions a shaman would ask his patients: What makes storytelling one of the medicines?

[15:38] The Uncool Dad Stereotype

[24:40] Masculine and Feminine Energies

  • Learning to understand masculine and feminine energy.
  • How to shift between the two gender energies: From the feminine openness to receiving to the masculine drive and achievement.
  • Overcoming shame around dancing at Burning Man: Letting the body express itself freely.
  • Tatyana Vroman
  • Shifting from playing by the rules to wanting to dance with the energies.
  • The reason why Josh renamed Wellness Force to Wellness + Wisdom: Making a shift away from constriction.
  • 369 Josh Trent | Death & Rebirth: Why I’m Saying Goodbye to Wellness Force…
  • Emotional intelligence: Growing up with fathers who wouldn’t express their feelings or gratitude.

[30:30] Reforming Fatherhood

  • Why men have to know themselves and accept all parts of themselves.
  • Front Row Retreat
  • The need to control the environment, spouses, or kids to feel safe.
  • Jon shares a story about how he tries to get his needs met by his wife using control.
  • Blind spots: Recognizing that you might now know what you don’t know.
  • Surrounding yourself with the right people and community: Why Jon’s community appreciates family men with businesses and not businessmen with families.
  • David Packard – HP
  • Jon looking at people’s biographies and noticing they are only proud of their achievements, not their family life.

[35:30] Creating Space in Life

  • Front Row Dads’ Core Values: 5 Whys (curiosity), Lead Domino (intentional action for impact), Rising Tide (community).
  • The 3 R’s of Front Row Dads: First relationships, then resources, then the results, and why the order matters.
  • Exploring the sacredness of creating space in a relationship.
  • The 5 love languages: Why Jon’s wife believes space is the 6th love language.
  • How creating distance is beneficial to men, and how Jon applies space at his events to spark conversations.
  • The way Josh has been able to create more space in his life through theta breathwork.
  • Man cave: Why the intention matters.
  • Jon explains how he was overworking at his job and ended up too exhausted to be there for his family, and how creating space in his calendar helped him be more present at home.
  • The Tetris Effect: The Game that Hypnotized the World by Dan Ackerman
  • Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard by Chip and Dan Heath
  • The Tetris effect in real life: How Jon wasn’t able to get his work out of his mind when he was at home with his kids.

[46:30] Dancing with Life: Finding Balance in Work, Family, and Marriage

[57:20] What is Real Power?

[01:05:10] Front Row Dads Live Event

  • Front Row Dads Live Event – discount “JOSH” for 10% off
  • Investing in ourselves to work on ourselves as fathers.
  • What the FRD Live Event in Austin is going to be about: A space for men to express themselves, let others express themselves, and ask big questions.
  • The breathwork and other teachings Josh plans to share at FRD.
  • breathwork.io
  • Why it’s not all about learning something new but about remembering something true.
  • Generations of fathers: How Jon’s dad never received hugs from his dad, and Jon had to teach him how to hug him the way he needed.
  • What made his dad eventually join FRD despite being in his 70’s.
  • Josh’s exciting news about him and Carrie expecting their second child.
  • Why Josh thinks Jon is the embodiment of his work, and in what ways Jon is inspired by Josh’s hard work on himself.

[01:18:00] The Essence of Front Row Dads & Their Journey of Endless Possibilities

  • Why does anybody could be a father but not anybody could be a dad?
  • How Jon came up with the name Front Row Dads and what the essence of it is: Witnessing and holding space for their children.
  • What makes Jon believe everyone is a possible expression of who we are in our core.
  • John Lee Dumas
  • Dean Karnazes
  • What made Jon commit to an ultramarathon even though he wasn’t a big runner, how it changed his life and led him to raise money for his foundation.
  • Trying to earn the right to be a good person: Chasing significance and love through FRD Foundation.
  • What made Jon step out of the board of his own organization.

[01:29:45] Setting on The Healing Journey

[01:38:10] Protecting Our Children

Power Quotes From The Show

I reframed what rock bottom is in my world, and rock bottom is also a foundation. Rock bottom is the strongest foundation for growth. - @jovromanClick To Tweet

You Don't Know What You Don't Know

“There are blind spots I’m sure I have. And I’m aware of them. That’s why they are blind spots… It’s recognizing that actually, you might not even know what you don’t know right now. But if you have faith in community, if you have faith that by putting yourselves around other people that have honorable intentions, like we say be a family man with a business, not a businessman with a family, that is a filter for what type of person we’re looking to surround ourselves with.” – Jon Vroman

The Strongest Foundation for Growth

“I reframed what rock bottom is in my world, and rock bottom is also a foundation. Rock bottom is the strongest foundation for growth.” – Jon Vroman

Playing With The Feminine And Masculine Energies

“The realization for me lately has been range. It has been expanding my range of possibilities, truly tapping into this. Openness, the feminine energy, this receiving energy… just letting the world give to you, fully receiving, curiosity…

I also thrive in the masculine, what I would call this driving energy where I want to be in my car going somewhere, focused, with a direction, achieving… And how fast can I move back and forth between those energies? How can I accept those energies and play with them?” – Jon Vroman


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About Jon Vroman

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Jon Vroman is a family man, motivational speaker, author, philanthropist, personal coach, ultra-marathon runner, and founder of Front Row Foundation and Front Row Dads community.

In 2005, he co-founded Front Row Foundation to help create front row moments for people facing life-threatening illnesses. To date, the charity has raised over $1,000,000 and has been instrumental in over 60 life-changing experiences.

The same year Jon started Front Row Global, where he travels across the country to speak with college students and corporate teams about how they can move from the back row of life to the front row. The mission is to capture the key ideas individuals need for their personal growth and change through the idea of being a participant, not a spectator. This encourages individuals to step out of their comfort zone and live life to the fullest.

In 2017, Jon published The Front Row Factor: Everything You Can Learn About Life From Those Fighting For It, a story about the magic that happens when good business is fully integrated with good work.


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About Josh Trent

Josh Trent lives in Austin, Texas with his love Carrie Michelle, son Novah, and a cat named Cleo. He is the Founder of Wellness Force Media, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath & Wellness Program. Josh has spent the past 19+ years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. The Wellness Force Media Mission is to help humans heal mental, emotional, and physical health through podcasts, programs, and a global community that believes in optimizing our potential to live life well.

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