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Wellness + Wisdom Episode 385
Co-Founder and Chief Innovation Officer at Apollo Neuroscience as well as the Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Board of Medicine, Dr. David Rabin, shares how the Apollo Neuro device uses sound waves to improve mental health, his practice of using breathwork and plant medicines in his clinical experience, and what steps you can take to restore your internal locus of control.
Join Dr. David and Josh to discover how you can truly become emotionally resilient no matter what you are facing from chronic stress to forms of PTSD and trauma.
“Apollo Neuro uses sound waves that are composed for the touch receptors of our skin rather than for our ears. There's a component of music that's in the lower frequency range that is somewhere between 10 and 200 hertz which is about what comes out of your subwoofer that is more easily felt through our skin than heard through our ears. There are certain patterns of sound that when delivered to the skin, you can relatively reliably nudge the body and the mind into sync, flow, and goal states more effectively. Certain patterns of sound make us more energized and others calmer shifting our energy and mood.” – Dr. David Rabin
Listen To Episode 385 As Dr. David Rabin Uncovers:
[1:30] Restore Your Locus Of Control
- Organifi
- Board of Medicine
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The mindset he grew up with as a child that it is important to give back to the world and leave it a better place.
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How mental health training for physicians has changed over the years and why people believed that physical and mental health were not connected.
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Exploring the internal locus of control when it comes to letting go of unhealthy stress.
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How the worlds of breathwork, clinical experience, and the Apollo Neuro device have been combined for a nexus of healing.
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Diving deep into the question of, “Why do some of us find it easy to overcome stress when others do not?”
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The power of breathwork as the most fundamental skill to restore a sense of control.
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How gratitude works hand in hand with breathwork to help us calm down, be present, and restore our locus of control.
[15:30] Best Practices For Healing Chronic Mental Health
- Dr. Gabor Maté
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The fact that according to Dr. Gabor Maté, addiction is really the opposite of human connection.
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Exploring the little ‘t' and capitalized ‘T' trauma of PTSD especially for war veterans.
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The Apollo Neuro device and how it can help those with PTSD.
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His work helping veterans with PTSD and studying how humans cope with chronic stress.
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Why people with low heart rate variability find it difficult to heal their PTSD, depression, anxiety, chronic pain, or insomnia with a western medicine treatment plan.
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The fact that 30-50% of people don't respond to a western medicine treatment for their chronic mental health condition.
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Why plant medicine is not for everyone but if you want to try it, you should do research to ensure it's done in a safe environment with a certified shaman.
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Unpacking why prescription medicines have their purpose but they are not for everyone as they do come with risk.
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Why a safe, trusting relationship with a therapist, psychiatrist, doctor, or caregiver is the most important thing for your healing journey.
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His experience in being trained in ketamine and MDMA assisted psychotherapy and the importance of the patient being in a safe mindset to have an optimal experience.
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Why there is no ‘one-size-fits-all' approach to healing the mind.
[21:30] Navigating The Human Mind
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The fact that most substances that people self-medicate with to activate their serotonin, dopamine, endocannabinoid, endorphin, and opioid systems can also be activated with the sense of touch.
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Apollo Neuro's origin story and how the device is helping people heal their minds.
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How Apollo Neuro can help the user feel safe in an environment that was perceived as being threatening in the past.
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Why the brain is designed to react the same way to even very different threats when it does not feel safe.
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The one thing that traumatizes almost every single person on this planet: when we go to a person that we respect and share that we are feeling sad, anxious, confused, or frustrated and they tell us something similar to: “You shouldn't feel that way. You shouldn't express yourself that way; anger is not appropriate.”
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Why it is dangerous to teach someone that they need to suppress their emotions.
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How you can learn to acknowledge and feel your own emotions without judgment.
[33:00] Building Resilience Against Disease Through Balance
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The design behind Apollo Neuro and why it's actually a sound wave device.
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His musical background and why different types of music have various effects on the human brain.
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How music frequency can actually align the body and mind.
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What it means to be centered for greater health.
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Why balance is actually resilience against disease, stress, and illness.
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The top cause for imbalance: focusing too much on things that we don't have control over.
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Differences between toning and activating the vagus nerve through the left ear vs through the Apollo Neuro device which does the work for you in incredible stressful moments.
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Why Apollo Neuro users are discovering more benefits the more often they use the device.
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How Apollo Neuro trains the user how to identify actual threats vs perceived threats.
Power Quotes From The Show
[click_to_tweet tweet=”‘Unlocking greater wellness is about achieving balance. It's not about achieving one extreme or another. It's the ability to physically have our bodies recover and bounce back quickly from stress over and over again.' – @DaveRabin” quote=”‘Unlocking greater wellness is about achieving balance. It's not about achieving one extreme or another. It's the ability to physically have our bodies recover and bounce back quickly from stress over and over again.' – @DaveRabin”]
Achieving Greater Wellness Through Balance
“Unlocking greater wellness is about achieving balance. It's not about achieving one extreme or another; we're constantly bouncing back and forth between extremes. It's about finding balance and balance is resilience. Balance is homeostasis; it's the ability to not just mentally, emotionally, and spiritually bounce back from stress quickly but it's the ability to physically have our bodies recover and come back quickly from stress over and over again while also maintaining and sustaining an incredibly high level of peak performance which is achievable.” – Dr. David Rabin
How Apollo Neuro Works With Your Stress
“With the Apollo Neuro device, it doesn't require you to actively do anything like breathwork, rubbing the ears, putting pressure on the chest, or soothing touch to activate the vagus nerve. All of those activities work but if you've never been trained to use those techniques under stress or at all, then they are incredibly challenging to master and especially if you've never practiced them; sometimes they can take hundreds or thousands of hours for people to master them well enough to use under stress. We've designed Apollo Neuro for people like myself who never learned breathwork, how to meditate, or any of these self-soothing techniques as a kid. Apollo Neuro can show you what it's like to activate your body's natural calming system and once you feel it, it's easier to learn how to do it on your own.” – Dr. David Rabin
Wellness Is Our Free Will
“Wellness is recognizing our true free will which also includes ‘free won't.' It's the opportunity to make a decision at any moment of what we choose to allow in. If we choose love, our lives will be filled with love in the moments we choose it. If we choose fear, our lives will be filled with fear in the moments we choose it. It's literally that simple. So, wellness in its simplest and most actionable form is just recognizing that we have this choice and making the conscious decision that we all have the power to choose love in every moment that we can.” – Dr. David Rabin
Links From Today's Show
- Organifi
- Board of Medicine
- 201 Dr. Michael Gervais
- Apollo studies for PTSD are underway
- Your Brain Thinks All Pain is the Same: Touch Therapy Can Help – Dr. David Rabin with Dave Asprey – #729
- Healing Trauma with Touch, Breathwork and Psychedelic Medicine – Dr. David Rabin with Dave Asprey – #730
- Apollo Neuroscience studies: the research behind our results
- Leave Wellness Force a review on iTunes
- breathwork.io
- M21 Wellness Guide
About Dr. David Rabin

Dr. Rabin's Mission
Board of Medicine
The Neuroscience Behind Apollo