Daniele Kathryn Hage | Gender Equality vs. Gender Equity: How to Have a Lasting + Loving Relationship For Life

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 674

What is the key to creating a long-lasting love and relationship?

Daniele Kathryn Hage | Gender Equality vs. Gender Equity: How to Have a Lasting + Loving Relationship For LifeDaniele Kathryn Hage, Pastor and Podcaster, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 674, to share her insights on faith, why gender roles are an important component in intimate relationships, and how balancing modern societal pressures with spiritual values creates a strong bond for a healthy and long-lasting marriage.


“There's this big thing about equality – everything has to be equal, men and women are equal, men and women are the same. But in relationships it's way more about equity than it is equality.”Daniele Kathryn Hage

In This Episode, Daniele Kathryn Hage Uncovers:

[01:30] From Pastor to Podcaster

  • Daniele Kathryn Hage
  • What brought Daniele and her husband to become pastors.
  • Why they started podcasting and pastoring online.
  • How she handles hateful comments and messages.
  • Being different is not something bad.

[06:25] Genderless Society

  • Genderless Society – Instagram Reel
  • According to the Bible, there are only two genders.
  • Why we need both the masculine and the feminine.
  • God's design is unity and connection, not division.
  • Why life is all about love and being a kind human.

[12:20] Science VS Spirituality

  • Why believing in God and knowing God are two different things.
  • How the people who have tried to prove there is no God found God through their research.
  • Science is catching up with spirituality.
  • What we focus on is what grows.

[16:30] Pray In Alignment with God's Will

  • The way we pray or meditate is equally as important as how we live our lives.
  • Why we need to pray in alignment with God's will and purpose.
  • We only get what God wants us to have.
  • If our prayers are about helping others, they are most likely going to be heard.

[20:25] Male + Female Roles

  • Why relationships are more about equity than equality.
  • Men and women have different roles.
  • Women need to step into their feminine energy when they're with their men.
  • Why being in the masculine energy caused fights in Daniele's marriage.
  • How to switch from masculine to feminine energy.
  • Why men want to come home to be relaxed and have peace.

[26:00] Men Transition from Work to Home

[34:25] Do The Inner Work

[39:00] Self-Love Is Earned

  • How Josh understood and started feeling that he has always been loved.
  • Why we earn self-love by doing good things for ourselves and others.
  • The grace of God is our tuning fork.

[42:30] How to Create a Lasting Relationship

  • Why having shared values is the fundamental part of a long-lasting relationship.
  • What Daniele and her husband learned after 44 years of marriage.
  • Relationships are a never-ending work.
  • Why obesity is a dealbreaker for Daniele and her husband.
  • There is no point of arrival in life.

[49:55] The Most Important Relationship Advice

  • What we can do to make romantic relationships easier.
  • Why we shouldn't try to change the other person.
  • How avoiding conflicts will kill a relationship.
  • Why talking through conflicts creates more intimacy and connection.
  • Pain comes from not talking about problems.

[55:10] How to Be a Parent + A Partner

  • When a woman focuses too much time and energy on her children, it hurts the relationship.
  • How having a good relationship is the best gift parents can give to their children.
  • Why Daniele was happy that her parents got divorced.
  • How her husband always told their children that their time as a couple was a priority.
  • Why having a calendar for intimacy can improve the relationship.

[01:02:50] Awaken Your Sex Life

  • How to approach lack of sexual connection.
  • Sex is a men's need and they will find it elsewhere if they don't get it at home.
  • Why sacred sex is a spiritual warfare and an act of oneness.
  • How emotional intimacy satisfies both men's and women's needs.

[01:11:10] The Impacts of Hedonism

  • Why we need to have a connection to a higher power.
  • How the demonic agenda is trying to separate people.
  • The truth comes from the word of God.

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Power Quotes From The Show

Men Crave Femininity

“Men crave women's femininity. And women can offer peace and make their homes a place of peace for men when they come home. He's been at war all day. He doesn't want to come home and have to fight another war. He wants to come home and be able to relax and be at peace.”Daniele Kathryn Hage

Conflict Creates Intimacy

“Conflict is great because if you have no conflict, somebody is lying. Somebody is not being authentic. Somebody is afraid to speak up. That means that your partner doesn't know you because you never will express yourself and let yourself be known. So you can't go deeper in intimacy. Your bond and your connection will be shallow.”Daniele Kathryn Hage

Relationship Should Be The Priority

“The relationship has to be the priority over the children. The best gift you can give to your children is having a good relationship. The best gift a man could give to his wife and children is loving their mom. And the greatest gift she could give to her children is showing him respect and appreciation. And when the kids see mom and dad are good, it breeds security in them.”Daniele Kathryn Hage



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About Daniele Kathryn Hage

Daniele Kathryn Hage | Gender Equality vs. Gender Equity: How to Have a Lasting + Loving Relationship For LifeDaniele Kathryn Hage is a highly experienced and inspiring co-pastor, speaker, and founder of “Dynamic Traits: Bring Out the Best.”

With over 40 years of co-pastoring alongside her husband, Steve, Daniele has developed a deep understanding of how to encourage individuals to bring out the best in themselves and others.

Her engaging teaching style and relatable approach have made her a sought-after speaker at conferences throughout the nation.

As a happily married mother of three adult children and five grandchildren, Daniele’s insights into personal and interpersonal dynamics are rooted in her own life experiences, making her an authentic and trustworthy guide for those seeking to grow and thrive.


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